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Kelechi EkezieAn honest conversation between a group of friends on facebook.

Kelechi Ekezie Those that say OBJ achieved nothing for 9ja should have a rethink: For example, 2 yrs ago I was gaming in the woods when I got an SOS call from one of our client banks: The Internet Banking database crashed! I was asked to fly back at once to Lag…I simply sat under a tree, put the rifle down and gave them instructi…ons over GSM, the server was up in 30mins…was that possible 10 yrs ago?

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17 hours ago · ·

    • Obi Eze The GSM revolution was a phenomenon whose time had come (was overdue, in fact), and would have happened even if a brain-damaged gorilla was in power at the time. That’s as asinine as crediting our junior women’s world cup achievement to Goodluck Jonathan…

      17 hours ago · · 1 personUche Onah likes this.
    • Kelechi Ekezie

      ‎@Obi: I don’t think so…when countries like Togo, Rwanda etc had established GSM networks, what was IBB thinking? Abacha? Abdusalami? They were all probably scared that it would be easy to plot coups without meeting physically…so they r…efused to implement it…

      Obj broke all that…lets give whatever credit is due to the man who achieved a goal, whether we think its over due or not…after all, if he had refused, like his predecessors to show interest in GSM tech, would we have GSM today?

      We may personally feel OBJ is a _____________(put whatever you like there)…however we must admit that man gave the Southern Nigerians a voice for the first time ever…who ever previously conceived Chief of Army staff from the S. South? A defence minister from the South East? A CBN governor from the SW and SE? An IGP from the SW and SS, now SE?

      What of Ngozi Iweala that reduced out debt burden to $0.00? Was that not a landmark achievement? Within 3 yrs of Yaradua’s govt we’re owing nearly $7 Bn already!

      When OBJ came to power, we were owing $32Bn! Our external reserves were nil! When he left, we were owing $0.00, and external reserves stood at $67Bn! Imagine if it had been IBB. would he leave a dime behind?

      Within 3yrs of Yaradua’s govt external reserves fell to $29bn! What did they do with such a huge sum? Roads? Housing? Infrastructure? Employment? And few people are asking questions!

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      17 hours ago ·
    • Benjamin Adelaja Adekunle ‎@Obi!?! pull that knife out! HABA!

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    • Kelechi Ekezie

      And bro, lest we forget, using football as an analogy is not a right approach…Jonathan did not initiate the women’s world cup, its always been there before he came, so no credit can go to him there…unlike GSM that was a brand new innova…tion Nigerians had never seen experienced on such a massive scales!

      Don’t forget that the great “philanthropist” MKO Abiola was given a contract of nearly $2bn in the late seventies to provide Nigerian with a wide area telecoms network (ITT). If not for MKO, every Nigerian, right from the 70s, would have had a telephone at home!

      MKO simply pocketed the money…now went about sharing perhaps 10% of the booty around, and ignorant Nigerians dubbed him a great philanthropist! This was money meant for you and I to benefit from!

      What if OBJ chose to do the same with GSM? There’s nothing anyone could have done!

      So while I’m no fan of OBJ, I chose to look at his achievements impersonally and evaluate as same…See More

      16 hours ago ·
    • Obi Eze Then I guess we should all deck ourselves in sack-cloth, pour ashes on our heads and weep that OBJ didn’t become president for life..

      16 hours ago ·
    • Ken Chijar Ekezie Talking about achievers, you did not mention the cerebral and hard working Achike Udenwa who single-handedly brought development and progress to Imo State by bringing Mr. Biggs to Okigwe Road. Don’t forget the man o!

      16 hours ago ·
    • Benjamin Adelaja Adekunle Hmmm, kelechi, ure wearing a bullet proof vest! no fair.

      obi, reload, this is getting interesting!

      15 hours ago ·
    • Emeka Maduewesi

      ‎@Kelechi: And who made the hand set your were using? China. Who made the riffle? China. Who made the mast/towers that passed your message? China. And who made the servers in the bank? China. THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE TEN YEARS AGO! And TATA of… India bought the entire Jaguar Car worldwide. And that also was not possible ten years ago.

      Kelechi, you have no idea how far the world has gone and how backward Nigeria is. Obansanjo failed. I had so much trust in him but he failed woefully. PERIOD.

      I look forward to eating at Mr. Biggs at Umulolo Okigwe. Thank you Gov. Udenwa for that juicy dividend of democracy.See More

      14 hours ago ·
    • Obi Eze Lol…the indices Kelechi uses as his yard-stick for achievement are indeed laughable. Let us resist the temptation to kiss the asses of politicians for things that would have happened without them, and indeed happened IN SPITE of them..

      14 hours ago ·
    • Benjamin Adelaja Adekunle

      yes, its true! comparitive to the wider world, obj left a bit wanting!

      but then comparitive to all the nigerian leaders since shagari, na him try pass, he gave up trying when he realised that his fellow nigerians really didnt care about doin…g what was right, only what entered into thier pockets.See More

      14 hours ago ·
    • Emeka Maduewesi

      ‎@Benjamin: I hate to admit this, but in terms of institutional achievment, IBB did more than any other leader. If we can only be less emptional about his horrible negatives, IBB was enamored by the US socio-economic politics and was ready …to copy and paste. But he got derailed, just like OBJ. I have lived in the US since 1998 and at every turn, I see what IBB was trying to do. Only a few institutions, like FRSC, NDIC survived. Even grassroot politics died!
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      14 hours ago ·
    • Obi Eze ‎@Benjamin: Then he is no better than the rest. Anybody giving that excuse for non-achievement is as guilty as those he blames, as any leader of any country (especially one as “peculiar” as Nigeria) should have learned how to exploit the inherent selfishness of people against themselves..and for the general good. If OBJ can explain what happened to over 13billion invested in the power sector without anything to show for it, then maybe we could count that (the explanation) as his achievement..

      14 hours ago ·
    • Uche Onah

      ‎@Kelechi: Your post is a painful reminder of the pathetic lowering of benchmarks for performance of politicians in Nigeria and how we have become so impressionable even to a childish extent. Decades of deprivation has wiped out the expecta…tions citizens elsewhere wld normaly have of their govt. We wld jst abt get contented wt any govt that doesn’t actively harm us. It is an absolutely disgusting situation for at least one reason: if citizens do not hv d right expectations of leadership, how on earth wld they be able to hold the latter to account? Let us closely examine some of ur clever claims.

      Obi Eze is absolutely right on the GSM issue. We might credit OBJ’s govt wt putting together a team of technocrats that midwived a regulatory environment which gave the telecom operators sufficient confidence to come into such a volatile environment as ours. But that’s abt all OBJ did! That scores him average-those telecom operators were always going to come anyway bc Nigeria is way too large a market to be ignored and the markets elsewhere were maturing/saturating!

      The claims abt “giving Southern Nigeria a voice” bc of those appts is clearly ELITIST. Why wld I care where a minister or an army chief came frm if he did his job? How did those ppl appointed affect the life of an ordinary man in the SE? Is IGP Onovo not currently presiding over a police force so incompetent that its rank and file are turning Igboland into Mogadishu? I knw it’s natural to think that appointing ppl from the South is an achievement bc being privileged, as some of us are, we might then begin to nurse a faint hope that one day we too might be appointed. But that’s way too narrow-minded for the kind of debate on fundamental issues such as we are having and the well being of the common man shd be a better benchmark

      OBJ succeded in getting debt relief. Good for him but what did he do wt savings arising therefrom? Did the money saved frm debt servicing translate into higher enrolment in schools or better univerisities or healthcare? Whither the money? Frankly, unless there is evidence of improvement of life of Nigerians traceable to the debt relief, the whole thing remains a largely acedemic debate far removed from the harsh realities of the daily lives of Nigerians.

      One last point: Leader A being ‘better’ than leader B doesn’t make A good enough. “Better” might yet not mean “good enough” and what we need is leaders that are GOOD ENOUGH, and not just better! Cheers (sorry this is so long I don’t hv time to edit for typos and errors, bear wt me, lol!)

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      14 hours ago ·
    • Obi Eze Well said, Uche..

      14 hours ago ·
    • Emeka Maduewesi ‎@Uche Onah: Thank you so much. I read it all.

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    • Benjamin Adelaja Adekunle

      great yall, when i wake up tomorrow, of course nigeria will be a paradise!

      everything is process, everything. all the countries that you mention that are now in the premier ranks of nations went through one.

      what they have achieved did not h…appen overnight, more importantly we have a situation in nigeria where many feel that what is good for the whole is not good for them, emphasis of divisions instead of a common identity.

      where ever we may end up, we start from here! no matter how terrible you may percieve here to be. i do not need anyone to tell me how terrible things are, i am living the times.

      i need someone to show me how to get to where things are well for all of us!

      enuff with the suicide talk. something was not available before, it is now, because it is, all have forgotten quite conviniently how bad it was before. whatever he was give him his due, at least on this aspect!
      why? cause oneday soon, it may be you and ins spite of all your protestations of good intentions, its what you do that you will be judged on!

      later.

      @obi, 13 billion? nigerians chopped it!, thier families were VERY happy when they chopped it, it bought girlfriends new houses, sons new girl friends, fathers new wifes and wives new houses.

      what? u didnt know? well what the heck were YOU doing when all that was going on? ah yes? and there lies the problem with all of us!

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      14 hours ago ·
    • Obi Eze Exactly my point Benjamin..while we kiss OBJ’s ass for what Nigerians achieved..we might as well blame him for what Nigerians chopped…

      13 hours ago ·
    • Benjamin Adelaja Adekunle

      ‎@obi!!! i do not want to kiss that ass o!

      just lets give the “devil” his due. i feel sincerely that those are two accomplishments that kelechi mentioned, in the avalache of failures that his administration recorded.
      he failed yes but that d…oesnt mean i will not be fair!

      damn, even i have limits. lol
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      13 hours ago ·
    • Kelechi Ekezie

      ‎@Peeps: All I’m saying is that we should not focus so strongly on the man’s failures to the extent of becoming pessimistic…it is said that the good try to see the good in everything around and vice versa…

      Obj had his good points too, we… have to acknowledge that…I think this mentality of miracles is finally taking its toll on us…we expect instant magical results from every leader…look at GLJ who is barely 3 months in the saddle, look at the amount of lashing he receives from Nigerians on FB….if we employ a staff. don’t we place him on probation for a while before confirming him?
      Why don’t we give GLJ a “probation” period before judging him so harshly? Despite the fact that power supply has improved dramatically, people still lash him severely as if he has a Magic Wand he refuses to deploy…

      Nigeria is NOT an easy country to govern peeps, the system is so complex, there are so many tribal interests etc…Its so easy to sit in comfort of your home and office and criticize the super Eagles, for instance, playing a match…

      Peeps, just step into that pitch and play with them for 2mins, then you’d see just how EASY it is to criticize and label people as failures….

      Those of us who are employers of labour know how difficult it is to manage Nigerian staff, small as the company is…now imagine having to manage 150m people, of whom most are blindly materialistic, grossly impatient, lawless, very selfish and greedy, and tribalistic as well…

      Its no easy task at all…we forget there is a National Assembly, that ratifies all such decisions, the NASS posed a big obstacle to progress in 9ja, was that OBJ’s fault? To pass any bill sent by OBJ, they demanded to be settled first…and OBJ, being a stingy fellow was not cut out for all that crap, leading to face-offs between him and the NASS, and thus the impeachment threat.

      When the members of the NASS were asked to give conditions for not impeaching OBJ, they gave 27 conditions: Not a single condition had anything to do with the welfare of the populace…NOT one! Is that OBJ’s fault? When the NASS is full of touts. 419 kingpins and ex drug barons, how can you expect progress in the nation? And can we blame Obj for that?

      It is said that we Nigerians have a very short memory, from the posts above, it is clear that most of us have already forgotten all this!

      Believe me peeps, we are not being fair in our appraisal of Obj and his govt…whether he failed in some areas, no doubt, but he did achieve some success else where…

      One of the directors in LUTH told me that OBj’s govt funded Teaching Hospitals across the country very well, yet these funds where being diverted by the top shots in the hospitals – is this OBJ’s fault? In 2006, Benue state govt disbursed billions as agric loans to “farmers” to boost food production in the country, 84% of the beneficiaries absconded with the money and never came back – is this Obj’s fault? Our people are unscrupulous – period…and that does not make governance any easier…See More

      10 hours ago ·
    • Emeka Maduewesi

      ‎@Kelechi: Good post and good try. You have no idea how much we expected from OBJ. To the best of my knowledge, Nigeria is an easy country to govern notwithstanding the “materialistic, grossly impatient, lawless, very selfish and greedy, an…d tribalistic” bottle necks. You may score OBJ 70%. I have him down to 45% because to whom much is given, much is expected.

      OBJ has the most international clout and name recognition that would have catapult Nigeria close to India and China and Brazil in terms of technological advancement, which is the current vehicle that the world is using to transform the lives of their people (like your GSM) but he stooped too low to play local politics. I love EFCC though.

      I don’t have a short memory as you can see from what I said about IBB above. I take the good with the bad. I never expected IBB to do much but he did a lot of good and garnished it with overflowing evil in 8 years. He has no chance with me now.

      As for GEJ, we should give him a chance to prove that healthy civilians are better mangers than soldiers.See More

      10 hours ago ·
    • Kelechi Ekezie

      ‎@Emeka: I’m inclined to agree with you with regards to expectations of Obj…however don’t forget he was distracted by his endless battles with the NASS, and his deputy Atiku too was fighting him as well..at the end of the day every one wa…s fighting for his own pocket and not for the citizenry…
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      9 hours ago ·
    • Uche Onah

      ‎@Kelechi: Your portrayal of d long suffering ordinary citizens of Nigeria is totally inaccurate & unacceptable. It smacks of a deliberate mischievous attempt to revise d pains of our history, re-spin d ongoing tragedy of our lives, and mal…ign us either in deference to own elitist ego or patronage of d corrupt establishment. Or tell me, why else wld u make villains of victims? Why wld u mistake effects for causes? Why wld u brand d deprived as ingrates? Look, some of us hv moved around too. Anyone who tells you Nigerians are difficult to govern shd try the British or Germans. If u think we are materialistic try d Americans. If u think we are impatient, try the French!

      OBJ’s govt failed frm first principles-he never wanted to change d lot of Nigerians! In fact, he hated d mere sight of us. He was a corrupt and ruthless megalomaniac. The trivial benefits frm his tenure were purely coincidental being unintended consequences of his half-assed schemes. The Nigerian presidency by virtue of our constitution and our rather wierd geopolitics is one of the most powerful in d world. The position is so powerful that if anyone ever ventures into Aso Rock wt d slightest iota of moral capital, it wld not be too difficult to whip everyone else into line. For eg, if OBJ funded teaching hospitals and d money disappeared, why cldn’t he get the police or EFCC to track it down? Of course, he wldn’t bc the contracts were awarded to his cronies including his daughter and was never really meant to be executed-it was just a scheme to steal frm our treasury. I was ‘not-told’ abt it-I was still at the Univ of Nig Teaching Hosp then and it was obvious to all of us that it was a scam.

      Nor does ur plea for GEJ to be spared the blame for his own failures any more reasonable. No one expects magic from him. Bt if a president plans to blow so much money on an anniversary of failure and then 3 jets at a time our kids are failing in record numbers in school, our health indices are rivalling those of wartorn countries like Somalia, and security has become a luxury,then something is fundamentally wrong with his grasp of our problems as a nation. He cannot improve-we have seen his best and it is way below what is needed to change this country for our kids. He is far too depraved, dense, and deluded.

      Honestly, I wonder whether u

      a. actually blv what u are saying
      b. are just stoking an a debate for argument’s sake
      c. are being paid to re-spin history for us

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      9 hours ago ·
    • Obi Eze

      I guess we have been so traumatised by our own history, that we have learnt to thank our leaders for bread when they give us stones.. For merely providing the most basic of indices for any society’s development, Gov. Fashola has been elevat…ed to demi-god status by lagosians. The thing I like most about the man is his business-like approach to governance and his seeming attitude of “I haven’t even done anything yet, why are you people praising me sef?”. Any leader who indeed has the development of Nigeria at heart, and who realises the selfish nature of Nigerians, should be able to exploit such selfishness (as indeed, the basic rule for relationships between people is that ALL humans are selfish). There is no doubt that Nigerians ourselves have been a hindrance to our own development, but when one realises that we all basically operate out of the fear of losing what we currently possess, then the average Nigerian is easy to control.See More
      4 hours ago ·
    • Jblaze Okey Njoku

      Talking about GSM, Have we forgotten that before Abacha died, he already gave a go ahead for the Gsm companies to start operations, infact Boudeaux telecom recieved her licence under Abacha’s regime,crediting the advent of mobile phones to …OBJ is LIke crediting the birth of Jesus christ to the administration of Herod. Our leaders past and present have demonstarted the porosity of their cognitive domain through their various mushroom projects without making any serious effort to pioneer or encouirage any tangible project that is capable of moving this nation forward. Take for instance, a group of Nigerians in Diaspora that wants to set up a car plant. Their effort is being frustrated by the government. In sincerity, our leaders have failed us. WE SHOULDNT FAIL OURSELVES.See More
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